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Pre-Settlement Ticketing Fees

Understand the calculations for Pre-Settlement ticketing fees and how to use them.

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Written by Rosie Scanga
Updated over 9 months ago

Want to back out a VIP lift, charity dollars, or album bundles from your gross prior to settlement? How about additional facility fees? Our Pre-Settlement Fees feature is the answer!

Types of Pre-Settlement Ticketing Fees

Learn more about the calculations for pre-settlement fees below.

  • Flat per ticket - This amount will be removed from the ticket price for that tier. This type of pre-settlement fee is typically used for VIP lifts, album bundles, or charity dollars.

  • % of Gross (Divisor) - This fee will be based on the Total Gross on the show and is calculated as: Total Gross Ticket Revenue - (Total Gross Ticket Revenue/ (1+(Amount/100)). This type of fee is typically used for taxes that are calculated off of the show's Gross Ticket Revenue.

  • % of Adjusted Gross (Divisor) - This fee will be based on the Total Adjusted Gross on the show and is calculated as: Total Adjusted Gross - (Total Adjusted Gross / (1+(Amount/100)). The Adjusted Gross in this scenario is after most pre-settlement fee types or facility fees have been removed, except for any flat after tax pre-settlement fees. This type of pre-settlement fee can be used for royalties or additional taxes.

Any per-ticket or percentage of Gross Pre-Settlement Fees will be removed and factored in to the Adjusted Gross calculation. Percentage of Adjusted Gross Pre-Settlement Fees can be used to remove additional fees or taxes from the show's Net Gross calculation.

  • % Per Ticket - This fee type allows you to get more granular and calculate based on the Total Gross for a particular ticket tier as: Total Gross Ticket Revenue by tier - (Total Gross Ticket Revenue by tier/ (1+(Amount/100)).

  • Flat After Tax - This fee type allows you to enter a flat dollar amount to be deducted from the Total Gross after tax. This is useful in case you have VIP Lifts, or other amounts that need to be deducted from the Adjusted Gross and not factored into the sales tax calculation.

  • Flat Before Tax - This fee type allows you to enter a flat dollar amount to be deducted from the Total Gross before tax. This is useful in case you have a charity fee or discount where you want to deduct an amount from the Gross that will then be factored into the sales tax calculation. A Flat Before Tax fee might also be used to represent an additional tax that needs to be removed from the Gross before sales tax.

Use the Estimated field to track internal estimates for flat fees which will be reflected on internal settlements but not on external Offers or Settlements. Use the Potential field to factor the amount into offers and the Actual field for finals to factor the amount into settlements.

On the Estimated Internal Settlement:

On the Offer:

On the Settlement:

You may consider using a Flat Pre-Settlement Fee for many scenarios including VIP/M&G Lifts, additional state or local taxes, or for other dollar amounts that need to be deducted precisely without rounding errors. Flat Pre-Settlement Fees give you more flexibility when making before tax and after tax deductions from your gross revenue.

How Pre-Settlement Fees are Calculated

On Holds

On an event with a Hold status, the Pre-Settlement Fees Estimated column will factor in Est. Sales Tickets and the Potential column is based on Sellable tickets. Looking at the VIP ticket tier in the example above, Estimated = 30*$100=$3,000,

and Potential = 50*$100=$5,000.

On Confirmed Events

On a Confirmed event, the Estimated column will factor in Est. Sales Tickets and the Actual column will factor in Sold tickets. For the VIP ticket tier in the example above, Estimated = 30*$100=$3,000 and Actual = 25*$100=$2,500.

On Offers & Settlements

Offers will always show the Potential Pre-Settlement amounts based on total Sellable tickets. Settlements will always show the Actual Pre-Settlement amounts based on Sold tickets.

Note that if any percentage type Pre-Settlement fees are used, the Per Ticket Fees column may contain more than 2 decimal places. The total Pre-Settlement fee amount will be rounded to the nearest tenth decimal place but in order to accurately reflect the math at a per ticket level, additional decimal places are required.

Other Resources

Check out the video below for more information on backing out VIP Lifts and adding them on to artist payouts.


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